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WHOicidal Maniac
11:04 Sat Nov 28
Re: Erdogan
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1964 11:02 Sat Nov 28
Re: Erdogan
Why should we stop people wearing what they want?
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1964
11:02 Sat Nov 28
Re: Erdogan
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Just let them get on with it but sort out the nut jobs and dress and burka wearing wierdo's here.
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mentor
11:01 Sat Nov 28
Re: Erdogan
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One thing I learnt in Germany. You can't trust the Turks.
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WHOicidal Maniac
10:52 Sat Nov 28
Re: Erdogan
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Why the fuck do we need to get involved?
Isis are fighting on 4 fronts and losing in at least three of them.
I know we are all shitting ourselves from terrorist threat but Isis as an army are getting done over, other than in Iraq.
The problem is not with Isis but the next group who become Isis, and then the one after that and after that and no amount of western intervention will make that any better....
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Ronald_antly
6:26 Sat Nov 28
Re: Erdogan
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HMP wrote...
"Seems like only Russia n France genuinely fighting IS - Obama a peace lover and has no guts for it."
Actually, it's just Russia.
As for Obama being a "peace lover", OH DEAR!
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yogib
3:27 Sat Nov 28
Re: Erdogan
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The Turks are mostly moderate and the 50+ a tad literate and unschooled over there - The western allies created Al Qaeda and ISIS in an indirect way, possibly on purpose and naively - as has been said many times on here...be careful what you wish for!!!!!
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HairyHammer
1:21 Sat Nov 28
Re: Erdogan
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HMP
That is a very Naive way to look at it, as much as I dislike Erdogan and his dictator style let us not forget that a few years ago everyone was supporting ISIS but without knowing who they were or what they were about to become, America GB Turkey etc etc .
Turkey now are being made to look as if they are on their own and the sole supporter of terrorism , well I guess that' s what happens when you are the closest to the situation and are given pats on the back and even told to help Assads fall, and then everyone goes quiet and the only one helping is Turkey.
It was all good a year or so ago until we found out that the best fighters to bring Assad down were crazy Islamic loones well they were hardly going to be Syrian Tree huggers were they.
What is 100% is that Erdogan has to pull away from them, but how do you do that when Turkey is now full of crazed evil Jihadis welcomed in as freedom fighters who are prepared to die for there cause and will even be prepared to destroy Turkey to do it .
Erdogan has made his bed that is for sure his route was always to create an Islamic Turkey he is now paying the price, but he was not alone when it comes to wanting Assad gone nor was he alone in creating Isis.
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On The Ball
1:15 Sat Nov 28
Re: Erdogan
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Shame there was nowhere else this could have gone.
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